Comments for Rick Ross Tries to Think http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross But you never know whether anything will happen... Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:47:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6-beta3 Comment on Star Trek, Berners-Lee, and DZone’s Ocean of Data by Irene Celino http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross/2009/05/24/star-trek-berners-lee-and-dzones-ocean-of-data/#comment-250 Irene Celino Tue, 26 May 2009 16:55:02 +0000 http://blogs.dzone.com/rick/?p=14#comment-250 Rick, it is the well known chicken-and-egg problem: you are not willing to give your data until somebody explains you the advantages you can get, and the community (in this case the linked data community) cannot fully explain you the advantages until they can experiment with your data. As Tim said in his talk, please, "stop hugging your data" and give the linked data community the chance to prove their claim. All the scenarios you and your commenters envisioned can be enabled by a linked data approach. See for example what's happening in the LarKC project (http://www.larkc.eu) in the urban scenario and in the healthcare/lifescience field. Rick,
it is the well known chicken-and-egg problem: you are not willing to give your data until somebody explains you the advantages you can get, and the community (in this case the linked data community) cannot fully explain you the advantages until they can experiment with your data.

As Tim said in his talk, please, “stop hugging your data” and give the linked data community the chance to prove their claim. All the scenarios you and your commenters envisioned can be enabled by a linked data approach.

See for example what’s happening in the LarKC project (http://www.larkc.eu) in the urban scenario and in the healthcare/lifescience field.

]]> Comment on Star Trek, Berners-Lee, and DZone’s Ocean of Data by Vladimir Carrer http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross/2009/05/24/star-trek-berners-lee-and-dzones-ocean-of-data/#comment-249 Vladimir Carrer Mon, 25 May 2009 12:15:20 +0000 http://blogs.dzone.com/rick/?p=14#comment-249 I think that the Dzone data are already very open you have RSS based on tags and RSS based on search. RSS is cool XML standard, you might consider making API page with RSS, Atom and JSON with more then 20 results per page. I think that the idea of Tim Berners is great, but one think is missing universal data or "Database" format in what format should we share "raw data"? Now that standard is HTML, the idea behind HTML was universal language why will unite all documents. But today HTML is used for doing everything. We need new "data based" standard for uniting all "raw data". I think that the Dzone data are already very open you have RSS based on tags and RSS based on search. RSS is cool XML standard, you might consider making API page with RSS, Atom and JSON with more then 20 results per page.

I think that the idea of Tim Berners is great, but one think is missing universal data or “Database” format in what format should we share “raw data”? Now that standard is HTML, the idea behind HTML was universal language why will unite all documents. But today HTML is used for doing everything. We need new “data based” standard for uniting all “raw data”.

]]> Comment on Star Trek, Berners-Lee, and DZone’s Ocean of Data by Rodney http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross/2009/05/24/star-trek-berners-lee-and-dzones-ocean-of-data/#comment-248 Rodney Mon, 25 May 2009 11:01:42 +0000 http://blogs.dzone.com/rick/?p=14#comment-248 Rick, I am long time member (primarily reader) of javalobby and now dzone since 2002. There could be some monetary benefit by determining the ways in which people use the data and then finding some way to attach ads to it. From a purely informational standpoint, it could be one other point of analytics for a website or blog so that they can determine the best keywords to include in their title or description so that they can be found on dzone search. I don't have any ideas of how I would use the data right now but may be inspired by some enterprising usages after you have made the api available. DZone is fantastic and addictive. Keep up the good work and thanks for the resource. Rick,

I am long time member (primarily reader) of javalobby and now dzone since 2002. There could be some monetary benefit by determining the ways in which people use the data and then finding some way to attach ads to it.

From a purely informational standpoint, it could be one other point of analytics for a website or blog so that they can determine the best keywords to include in their title or description so that they can be found on dzone search.

I don’t have any ideas of how I would use the data right now but may be inspired by some enterprising usages after you have made the api available.

DZone is fantastic and addictive. Keep up the good work and thanks for the resource.

]]> Comment on Star Trek, Berners-Lee, and DZone’s Ocean of Data by someone http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross/2009/05/24/star-trek-berners-lee-and-dzones-ocean-of-data/#comment-247 someone Mon, 25 May 2009 07:00:29 +0000 http://blogs.dzone.com/rick/?p=14#comment-247 I would love to run some number crunching on it to track trends over the last 3 years. It would be rather cool to see the rise and fall of projects/languages/frameworks. Another thing I would like to to is map each articles similarity to each other. So you can get groups of similar articles. Getting chunks of good data is really difficult these days, and I would love to see more companies and websites release it just so people can tweak with it. So long as its not personally identifying or company secrets opening it will help more then hinder, as well as foster trust with the audience. Besides, without the users its nothing. Why not give back what they create? I would love to run some number crunching on it to track trends over the last 3 years. It would be rather cool to see the rise and fall of projects/languages/frameworks.

Another thing I would like to to is map each articles similarity to each other. So you can get groups of similar articles.

Getting chunks of good data is really difficult these days, and I would love to see more companies and websites release it just so people can tweak with it. So long as its not personally identifying or company secrets opening it will help more then hinder, as well as foster trust with the audience.

Besides, without the users its nothing. Why not give back what they create?

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]]> Comment on Star Trek, Berners-Lee, and DZone’s Ocean of Data by Bob Lee http://blogs.dzone.com/rickross/2009/05/24/star-trek-berners-lee-and-dzones-ocean-of-data/#comment-245 Bob Lee Mon, 25 May 2009 02:19:22 +0000 http://blogs.dzone.com/rick/?p=14#comment-245 Go for it. While the data itself may be worth money somehow, it's much more likely that this will enable some awesome dzone extensions. Instead of trying to build everything yourself, you can provide the API and let your users build stuff you might not have thought of. You could use rate limits like Twitter to mitigate risk. Go for it. While the data itself may be worth money somehow, it’s much more likely that this will enable some awesome dzone extensions. Instead of trying to build everything yourself, you can provide the API and let your users build stuff you might not have thought of. You could use rate limits like Twitter to mitigate risk.

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